Tiny Home on Wheels: Co-Owning Land In Gaspe Quebec to Eventually Have a Tiny House On.

I now co-own land and a fixer-upper house in Cap Aux Os Gaspe Quebec near Farillion Park. That is way out near the end of the Gaspe and a twelve-hour drive from Montreal. It is quicker to get to the province of New Brunswick from there than that city. On a map of Quebec, the Gaspe is in the north-est region along the St Lawrence River. The land is shaped like a leaf. Cap Aux Os is near the upper round part of that leaf.

A Picture Of My Backyard.

I originally wanted to install a Tiny house on the land but many regulations got in the way. One of the biggest problems with tiny houses on wheels is that owners don’t pay much taxes which municipalities don’t like. Tiny home on wheels owners can rent land to put their house on but there is no guaranteeing they will not run off in the middle of the night to avoid paying those taxes.

Another problem with tiny houses is that they take up space horizontally instead of vertically. They may end up providing less cheap homes for people than traditional apartment buildings when dealing with a specific amount of land size. Tiny houses will hit a limit of space that can be used. Putting apartment one on top of the other can be a limitless endeavor. It is another reason Tiny homes on wheels may not be welcomed to an area of land which purposes have not yet been defined.

There is a solution to these two problems of course. In my blog about tiny houses in Oregon, ( https://tinyhomesonwheelsfornorthamericans.com/tiny-homes-on-wheels-communities-oregan-america/) I mention that there where tiny houses installed in backyards where there were traditional homes with foundations on them. In this way, tiny homes on wheel dwellers paid rent to the traditional house owner who then took a portion of that rent to pay taxes.

The traditional house owner’s decision to have tiny home on wheel dwellers rent space on their property will not cause problems in terms of what the best use of that land should be as it has already been established as terrain for private use. The owner can decide what happens to it as long as certain regulations are met.

Fixing The Traditional House Found On Our Land.

fixer-upper house

The land I co-owned has an old fixer-upper house on it. The co-owner and I decided to renovate it. The basic structure of the house is sound, but it does not have running water, electricity or a bathroom yet at the date that I write this blog. Since we both agreed on making the old house as environmentally friendly as possible, many of the obstacles we faced in restoring it were similar to what would have to be considered when installing a tiny home on wheels on the land.

One main reason to fix the house up however was to have a traditional fixed house on our land. It will instill confidence in the municipality that someone will be living permanently on the land and will be able to pay taxes.

Then there is the sentimental reason for not letting these nostalgic homes completely disappear off the face of the earth. There are a number of these houses in The Gaspe that need renovations but are not getting it.

Finally, this type of house does appear to have been used as a model for the construction of a number of tiny homes on wheels.

What To Do With Human Pee and Poo?

One of the challenges we had in making our traditional house eco-friendly was trying to figure out what to do with human waste. We did not want to use a flush toilet as we felt it wasted too much water. I previously did do a blog on compost toilets which was well but Quebec has many laws regarding where you can deposit human manure even when mixed with wood chips or other organic matter to keep it from smelling and help it decompose.

There is a fear of ground contamination that could affect drinking water. A flush toilet though wasteful with water does direct dirty water to go into places to get treated.

Human urine can just go in the ground if you want but human manure cannot. You can be fined a high amount of money if you take a dump on land or in the forest and get caught. Thus what to do with the contents of a compost toilet is a problem. You have to either live near facilities that take care of such matters or bring it to those facilities. Our traditional house is not that close to either one.

This problem would have arisen had we brought a tiny house on the land right away. We would have wanted to use a compost toilet as well to save water but we have been stuck on what to do with the manure once the tank was full.

The co-owner of the traditional house wanted to make a hole in the ground in the backyard for an outhouse but had to wait for inspectors to check out what type of earth it was made up from to be sure manure would not travel around to contaminate surrounding ground and water. She was happy to learn that the earth where she wanted to put the hole in the ground was very sandy which means human waste will not travel.

A tiny home on wheels dweller could just come to the outhouse and empty a compost toilet in the outhouse. They would not have to travel far to empty it.

Our ancestors did not have to think much when they made outhouses but they were not as aware as we are today about how contamination could travel.

Using The Traditional House As A Model For Two Big Tiny Home On Wheels models.

The house has been divided into two parts with each co-owner getting a bottom and top half. It equals the size of two big tiny houses, although not on wheels, side by side each other. The second floor is somewhat higher than it would be in an actual tiny home on wheels. Still much tiny house logic has been used to inspire what will go on inside the traditional house as well as how to use its space.

It indicates to us some of the things we needed to do to allow the installation of a tiny home on wheels on our land. When water will be running in our house from the water source beneath the house we will have to think about how we will get water to a tiny home on wheels. In both cases, we also have to think about what we will do with the used water.

Electricity is also another aspect of both types of houses we will have to think of. Hydro-Quebec will soon be installing two electric poles nearby the traditional house. If we have a tiny has on wheels on our land we have to get electricity to it. You can’t survive a Quebec winter without it.

Conclusion

The renovations of the traditional house will prepare us for the eventual arrival of a tiny home on wheels on our land. It will provide a base where tiny house dwellers can pay rent. It will also be the source of water and electricity and toilet facilities.

It will also contain similar amounts of spaces a big tiny house would have and use the same size and types of furniture it would use.

Pictures were taken from my own collection except for the one about the toilet. That was taken from Yahoo images.

If you have any questions or comments please leave them below and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

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Marina Tidbury

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11 thoughts on “Tiny Home on Wheels: Co-Owning Land In Gaspe Quebec to Eventually Have a Tiny House On.”

  1. I never realized that there was such red tape to prevent the tiny houses from being placed on your own land? Even if you did leave, wouldn’t you still own the land itself, which means if you do not pay the taxes they would just take your land from you? Having lived in cities my entire life, the problems you are going through are ones that I would never have even thought about. Sounds like you have you work cut out for you, but have a good plan in place. Good luck I look forward to reading your follow up to see how your land looks once the traditional house is added and the tiny house on property!

  2. Wow, this is really nice, getting a small land you can lease out to people. It’s true that owners of the tiny house on wheels can zoom off as soon as its time for them to pay their taxes and this of course is a cause for alarm. I love the idea of fixing the tiny house you found on the land, it’s a wise thing to do a sit will enable that someone is living on the land so as to pay taxes. Thanks for sharing this interesting article and trust me, I grab a few things along the way that’ll be definitely useful for me later on.

  3. This is the first time I have seen how tiny houses on wheels look like. I have never gotten a chance to look at them before but with this content and these pictures provided, I have been able to see how these houses look like. I have even gotten to know the problems associated with these houses, for example, I didn’t know that they limit up space, but with this article, I have learned about it,thanks a lot 

  4. Gaspe Quebec is really a long way to go. You’ve really tried in making out this achievement of yours; I called it an achievement because not everyone can go through the stress of thinking about solutions for some of the challenges you had about fixing the tiny old house and about the toilet too. I’d love to do something like this, but maybe I’ll have to build the tiny house from scratch because it’s possible there’s none on the land that I’m able to get. Thanks for sharing this interesting article, it’ll be helpful.

  5. Wow. I have never had a tiny house on wheels and I never have thought of having one up until now. I think having a tiny home on wheels is a good idea if you don’t really like being trapped in one place and you like to move around and in order to see other places and towns. Sadly you have so many problems with the disposal of human waste and I think it is really important to keep and maintain an area clean. Thanks, I really learned a lot I did not know about small houses on wheels 

  6. Thanks for sharing your experience regarding tiny houses. I recently become interested with owning a tiny house for myself, but I wasn’t aware of the taxes and regulations related to it until I read your blog. The human waste issue is also something that I just found out. Does flush water cost than a compost toilet due to the amount of water used? I need to consider this for budgeting. Thanks

    1. Hello, thank you for your comment.  I was stating what the situation regarding Tiny Homes on wheels is in Quebec Canada.  Depending on where you live you might have more support systems for tiny house living such as places to have the human waste picked up or a place to dump it.  There are tiny homes on wheels owners who choose to use a flush toilet.  I don’t know if it cost more than a compost toilet because it uses water.  We are just concern about wasting water for environmental reasons.  For the time being, water is basically free in Quebec for regular house toilets.  It would follow that it would be for a flush toilet for a Tiny house on wheels.

  7. I must be upfront I live in the UK, so I ought to say that land and tiny houses in Canada do not interest me. I would be totally wrong to say so, I found your article to be totally absorbing and very interesting.

    I never gave a thought to the problems that people would have in Canada, with what are to me the UK version of mobile homes. I had one before many years ago, and had no trouble finding a site for it.

    Now I am thinking of buying another one, so I can totally empathize with the problems that you encounter across the pond.

  8. Hi Marina! Thank you for sharing your experience fixing the traditional house found in the land. I also have a similar project and have gathered plenty of ideas from your post. I love tiny homes on wheels. And I also want to rent them during the vacation period. It’s a nice investment in my area.

  9. Aww, I have been to that region. I absolutely love it! I wish you lot’s of success with your project. It’s a really interesting idea and I wish to continue reading about how it evolves here on your blog. And who knows, I may probably make a family trip to that area again in the future.

  10. Thank you for this great article. I have heard about tiny homes and it sounds like a cool idea. A tiny home is a lot easier to maintain and it can still be enough. That’s interesting that you can have a house on wheels. I mean I have heard of mobile homes but not actually a house on wheels. Thanks for the information about the Gaspe Quebec area and tiny homes on wheels. Have a great day.

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